Episode 36: Uncovering the Ego, From Mushrooms to Iboga with Darren
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In this episode, I had the honor of speaking with Darren, an integration coach. It was actually our second conversation together. The first didn’t end up getting published. He’ll tell you more about that. But listen to his story. It’s a deep story of loss, grief, trauma, hitting rock bottom and journeying out of all that with mushrooms, Ayahuasca and iboga. So, let’s hear from Darren.
We discussed:
- Synopsis:
- We previously did an interview, and some new stuff came up for you. Since then, you attended ceremony and worked with some of that. We’ll get into that later.
- In life, you’ve dealt with deep depression, trauma, loss & grief. suicidal thoughts…a lot of deep pain, man!
- And you’ve worked with several psychedelics as part of your work, with great results. Really turned things around.
- So, why don’t you give us a run-down of some of those things that you experienced in life, how you came to psychedelics, and where you are today.
- How, if at all, do you think your work with psychedelics set you up to be able to explore these parts of your life and experiences?
- Works as an integration coach at Soul Quest
- Has worked with many plant medicines from Hape’ to 5-Meo and Ayahuasca and most recently Iboga.
- Divorce hurt both parents and the kids…trauma
- Joined the Army
- Became very angry, sad, confused, anxious, depressed
- As an Hispanic, experienced racism in school
- Whole family gripped with fear which set the course for the rest of his life — anxiety, suicidal thoughts, depression
- Did so many amazing things, great accomplishments in school, journalism, military, peace corps, relationships. But was never happy. Always resentful. Didn’t know how to love. Lost soul.
- Surprised he survived after several suicide attempts that people didn’t know about
- Bought a home – a dream – then the market crashed and mold was found. Nervous breakdown.
- Hit rock bottom. Started working with his brother.
- Ran business with brother, great success
- But still felt angry and resentful
- Started fighting with brother
- Moved to DC in December 2011. In April 2012, got a call from his Mom. She was diagnosed with cancer. Passed quickly, before her first grandchild was born.
- Why?! This didn’t seem to have any meaning.
- His spiritualism died with her.
- Ready to take his own life. Bought a gun. Luckily survived, pawned the gun. Dad’s love saved him, didn’t want to hurt his dd or brother
- Launched new business, 2012-2019
- Still resented brother
- Fell into victim posture
- Became a clenched fist full of anger
- Was seeing a therapist
- Dad’s wife’s mental health deteriorated, ended up in the hospital; retirement center
- Could tell his dad was not well, emotionally
- Dad’s citation with is soulmate got worse
- Stopped talking to dad; resentment resurfaced; hated Dad
- Suicidal tendencies back, full blast
- Things falling apart
- Dad’s wife passed
- Dad died by suicide
- Found “How To Change Your Mind” by Michael Pollan. This is what I need!
- 7g of penis envy mushrooms
- Alan Watts, Terrance McKenna, learns how to do it
- John Hopkins playlist; cleaned the house; built an altar; took 5g
- Took additional 2g (7g total)
- Started to understand everything – music, philosophy.
- Thought of Mom & Dad, started crying with entire body and soul for an hour
- Sees the whole universe, then himself looking at the universe, self melts; ego death, in true self, soul
- Entered a ‘who am I?’ loop; felt like he screwed up his life, went insane, overwhelmed
- Thought he went mad
- Knew he needed to integrate
- Found Soul Quest, Ayahuasca church
- Volunteered here, served food
- Did an Ayahuasca journey
- Purged black vomit — how is this black? Old blood?
- Thought and cried about Mom; felt mom; hugged her
- Felt Dad; hugged him; same with brother
- Got the message to forgive to allow himself to feal; feal the grief
- When things get tough, touch the earth and remember to breath
- Got the message to be compassionate to others
- Did Ayahuasca a second night, even though his ego told him not to
- Communicated with parents;
- Cried for others’ pain
- Started to direct his journey; went to his Dad, to his Dad’s father
- Understood the sacred realm of consciousness; started asking big questions, got answers
- Started to come down. Asked for Rape’. Did in the right nostril.
- Wham! Instantly slammed down to the earth, smashed right back into another journey
- Launched into universe
- Came down, went to mirror and saw himself as is soul looking at Darren, started to cry: You’re okay! You did the best you could! Forgave himself; cried for himself this time
- Had another ego death
- Thought he’d made it, made the big breakthrough
- Did Stoned Ape interview and things came up
- Found Iboga through a friend from his integration circle
- With Iboga, you integrate during the process
- Awaken Your Soul in Costa Rica
- Iboga meant to be taken in the jungle; signed up
- Leaned that his Dad felt abandoned by him
- Was very judgy of the Iboga center at first
- Bwiti music; very percussive
- More childhood memories; started to cry in pain and anguish, not cathartic;
- Iboga makes you face your worst fear; you’re fully conscious, in your body, in your fears
- Saw that he was the one causing pain
- Screaming and crying for 11 hours
- Next day, thought he’d made a mistake; all the pain came back
- I love you; I’m sorry; Please forgive me; (Ho pono pono pono – Hawaiian)
- Awake for 36 hours; finally slept
- Next day is for reflection, no integration yet
- Next next day is integration, time in steam
- Then another day of Iboga
- Did Ho pono pono pono — and nothing!
- Screamed and cried at photos of people he’d hurt
- Revisited worst memory from childhood; parents fighting over alimony
- Sees family possessed by fear
- Sees mother become a child; sees his father turn to a child; both so scared; then himself; then his brother
- Had to forgive himself; asked what he needed to let go of, the answer was shame and guilt; threw those away; felt nothing
- Then, he felt a dark feeling; got the message that he’d never get rid of this; it was the devil, his ego
- Had to accept what he’d done and learn to live with it
- Took a psychospiritual journey to the moon; all was released
- Saw his mom and his dad in all their beauty and happiness
- Got to apologize
- Huge party in his heart; put everybody in there; love and happiness
- Looked in the mirror to forgive himself, but realized he didn’t need to; already did; had a body orgasm, a huge release
- Felt a presence of joy enter his body
- Had a conversation with his soul: funny forgetful so full of love, the way god looks at us, like children
- We trigger and impose trauma on each other
- Have to choose a life of service once you awaken
- Faced the monster and the monster was him
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